the united states has the technology and the resource base to make it work, and to make it possible. >> jennifer: we can finally lead, we can finally lead rather than being the laughing stock of the global community for burying our heads in the sand. the cost of these natural disasters is escalating by the billions. do you think in decision to a planetary global warming argument there is an argument that might work where the suffering and scientific haven't. >> it matters because it undermines our quality and safety of life, including wrecking the economy. so this has been one of the core reasons for decades actually that the call has been to make the energy system safe because it's going to save us from a lot of disasters. there is not really a difference between the climate change idea, the motivation, and the economic cost as a motivation. they really are the same. we are reckless in how we are unwilling right now through our politics because the public is willing, not just the political system to make modest investments to avert huge, huge damages like the one this week. >> jenni